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  1. I watched the infamous February 1988 episode of the Main Event last night and noticed something rather odd. During the prematch backstage interview with Mean Gene, Hogan is still wearing the old belt (the one he wore at WrestleMania III etc). Then, two seconds later, Hogan magically walks down the aisle wearing the Winged Eagle belt! So this obviously proves the backstage interview was pretaped. VInce and Jesse make no mention of the new belt. Was this the actual on screen debut of the Winged Eagle? If so, you would think the announcers would have at least mentioned it. Very strange to me.
  2. This was the first time I listened to one of your podcasts and it was entertaining. I must say that I am a huge mark for British accents! I will echo what Chad and Parv have said about Ron Garvin. I would classify Garvin as one of Flair's best ever opponents. Not only did they have the two awesome title switch matches in 1987, they had several excellent TV matches over the years. Just my opinion, but the Starrcade 1987 contest is in my top 5 of favorite all time matches. The stiffness, the sounds, the realism. I hate it when people use the "everybody knew Flair would win" argument against this match. Like nobody knew Hogan would always win his matches in his ridiculous first title run? Did that hurt the gate or butyrate of those events? I am glad that Lex Luger is starting to gain a little respect. I think his work in the 1988-1990 time period is vastly underrated. It is a crying shame that Dusty, Crockett, Ole, and even Flair continually screwed over Luger with the constant turns, silly finishes etc. I firmly believe that it should have been Luger going over Flair for the belt, not Sting. To me, Luger was better than Sting in every possible way (in ring, promos, etc). Not to mention, Luger had much better chemistry with Flair than Sting did.
  3. I just finished watching Starrcade 1983 on the WWE Network, as I had not seen it in its entirety in several years. I have a couple of questions that I hope you fine fellow classic wrestling fans can help me with. 1. Both before and during the main event (on at least 5-7 different occasions in total), Gordon Solie refers to Ric Flair as as a 2 time World Champion. However, at that point I thought he only officially held the belt once, from 1981 until losing it in June 1983 to Race. According to Wikipedia (not the best source, I know), there were several unrecognized title changes in that time period (to Midnight Rider, Jack Veneno, Carlos Colon, and Victor Jovica). My question is, which one of those "phantom" title changes is Solie referencing when calling Flair a 2 time champion? And it could not just be a slip of the tongue, as he did it on numerous occasions, and referred to Flair as a 3 time champ when he won the main event. 2. What is the backstory on Gene Kiniski being the special referee for the main event? Did he have on screen issues with either Race or Flair in the buildup to the match? To me, Kiniski totally ruined what could have been an excellent match with his constant involvement, both verbally and physically. Was his interference part of the booking, or did he simply go into business for himself? Thanks in advance for your help!
  4. Another highly entertaining episode guys! It is nice to know that Evil Jim Herd and Big Dust follow up this horrific Clash with quite possibly the worst PPV of all time. I guess I will have to watch Bash 1991 before your next episode. I don't think I have seen it in its atrocious entirety since the live feed in 1991. I look forward to hearing your take on Flair leaving with the belt etc.
  5. Parv, Thanks for the info on Dr Miller. I had a hard time finding any background on him as well. Interesting that Tito used Steamer's real name, and of course Dr Miller mentions Steamer in the call as well. Nice little TV match for 1978!
  6. Hello all, This is my first topic so don't beat me up too hard! I was thinking about ring announcers today, so I would like to get some input on who everybody's favorite ring announcer was/is. I will go first by giving my top 3, along with a short description and favorite call by each announcer. 1. Dr Tom Miller (Greensboro/JCP/NWA) I loved everything about the late great Dr Miller. His booming voice, authoritative tone, enthusiasm for the product, and rapid fire delivery. How he referred to the Horsemen as the "dreaded Four Horsemen." My favorite call by Dr Miller occurred when he announced Dusty as the new champ at Great American Bash 1986, after Big Dust defeated Flair in a bloody cage match. I am far from the biggest Dusty fan, but I love the way Dr Miller basically screamed the announcement at the top of his lungs. It really made Dusty's win seem like a legitimately huge event. 2. Gary Michael Cappetta (NWA/WCW) Like Dr Miller, I really enjoyed the enthusiasm of GMC. While he did have a great voice/tone, I simply liked Dr Miller's better. GMC was also an excellent promoter for the product. It was a big letdown to me when they brought in Penzer/Buffer to replace GMC. I loved all his Flair calls, but my fav was after Flair beat Steamboat at Wrestle War 1989. "Here is your winner, and for the sixth time, World Heavyweighf Champion, Nature Boy, Riiiiiccc Flaaaaiiirrr!!!!!" 3. Howard Finkel (WWF) Like my top two, the Fink always came on strong with his top notch voice and delivery. He always made title changes sound huge. My favorite Fink call was when he announced Sgt Slaughter as the "neeewwwww" WWF Champion after Sarge's shocking victory at Royal Rumble 1991. This was after Fink gave a dramatic pause for effect, which I found awesome.
  7. Great show as usual guys. Here is some follow up info on Butch Reed I think you will appreciate. ESPN Classic now occasionally plays some of the old Global Wrestling Federation (GWF) programming. Guess who showed up on my TV last night? That's right, Hacksaw Butch Reed! The best part is, he was wearing a Starrcade 1991 (WCW/New Japan Supershow here in the US) T-shirt! The shirt had a very noticeable WCW logo on it, which led me to research when this GWF show took place. Apparently Reed had a run there in 1994 and even briefly held the GWF North American Title, the promotions top singles belt.
  8. Greetings all, It is a pleasure indeed to join my fellow wrestling fans on this great forum. A couple weeks ago, I stumbled upon Where the Big Boys Play podcast. I have been hooked ever since, reliving the glory days of my favorite era along with Parv and Chad. WTBBP seemed to mention this site a lot, so I have been lurking the past week or so. I am VIP Slick (real name BA) and I currently reside in Tulsa, Oklahoma. However, I grew up in a small town in Southeast Texas. I remember watching wrestling for as far back as I can remember. My earliest memories are of the "dreaded" Four Horsemen and their feud with Dusty Rhodes. I also recall the Von Erich/Freebirds wars since I grew up in Texas. Back in the 80's thru the 90's I consumed any kind of wrestling I could find. WWF, WCCW, AWA, ECW, a little USWA, etc. But my favorite by far was NWA/JCP/WCW. I loved the realistic characters, the great brawls, just the whole presentation. Like Parv, I was much more attracted to the heels. They were portrayed as more intelligent and cool than the faces. I also much preferred the concept of the NWA heel/tweener touring World Champion than the nonstop Hogan run in the WWF. I continued to follow WCW right until the bitter end in 2001, despite the horrific decline in the product. Many of my friends were ecstatic that WCW was bought out by Vince. But I knew that it was the end of wrestling as I knew it, since Vince now had a monopoly, thus no reason to put on a good show. I slowed down my wrestling consumption in 2005, then pretty much totally stopped watching new product in 2008. Current WWE is much too scripted and homogenized for my liking. Not to mention the kiddie G rated nonsense. If I want that, I will watch cartoons! Thank you for letting me join this forum and I look forward to participating in great classic wrestling discussions! Below I have listed my all time favorite wrestlers and matches. My Top Five Favorite Wrestlers: 1. Ric Flair 2. Tully Blanchard 3. Nick Bockwinkel 4. Arn Anderson 5. Steve Austin My Top Five Favorite Matches: 1. Tully Blanchard vs Magnum TA (Starrcade 1985) 2. Ric Flair vs Terry Funk (Great American Bash 1989) 3. Steve Austin vs Bret Hart (Wrestlemania 13) 4. Ric Flair vs Rick Steamboat (Chi Town Rumble) 5. Ric Flair vs Ron Garvin (Starrcade 1987) VIP Slick (@VIPSlick)
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